CNLP 783 | Are We Too Critical Of the Church? John Crist Returns to Talk Cynicism, Hope, and Getting the Tonight Show
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
4.8 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 3 February 2026
⏱️ 109 minutes
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Summary
Comedian and listener favorite John Crist returns to ask if we're being too critical of the church right now. Has our cynicism gone too far?
Plus, we talk about finding hope and do a detailed breakdown of exactly what it takes to appear on the Tonight Show.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network. |
| 0:02.9 | Man, if this one doesn't, this one doesn't go, I think I got to, |
| 0:09.3 | it makes me emotional to say it. |
| 0:11.4 | I go if this one doesn't go, I think it's not for me. |
| 0:20.7 | Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. |
| 0:22.6 | I'm so glad you joined us today, man. |
| 0:24.4 | I had so much fun interviewing John Chris. |
| 0:27.6 | It's his second time on the podcast. |
| 0:29.8 | He's actually one of our most downloaded episodes ever. |
| 0:34.9 | Last time I sat down with John, he opened up about being canceled his journey through rehab. |
| 0:41.6 | And I really want to encourage you to listen to that or watch it on YouTube. And today, we |
| 0:48.1 | catch up and talk about everything that's happened since, including getting the Tonight Show, |
| 0:53.4 | what he thinks is right and wrong |
| 0:55.1 | with the church today where comedy is going and a whole lot more. So welcome to the podcast. |
| 0:59.8 | Hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership. If you're new here, |
| 1:03.8 | welcome. We have a lot of young listeners listening. We love young leaders. And if this episode |
| 1:09.5 | means something to you, it would mean the world to me if you |
| 1:12.3 | left a rating and review wherever you're watching and maybe drop a comment as well we'd really |
| 1:17.5 | appreciate that so john chris is one of today's fast rising stand-up comedians with more than |
| 1:23.2 | one billion video views over seven million fans on media, and sold out shows from coast to |
| 1:29.7 | coast. John also hosts his own weekly podcast called Net Positive. I was a guest on that, |
| 1:35.7 | and we'll link to that in the show notes as well. So without further ado, my conversation |
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