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0:00.0	The Art of Leadership Network
0:02.7	For someone to stand before me
0:04.6	and say, yeah, Lisa, but did he hit you?
0:10.0	You know, it kind of made me go,
0:13.9	well, do you want to see my scar
0:15.8	where I'm cut hip to hip and all the way up my middle?
0:19.0	Like, is that good enough for you?
0:25.1	Yeah. hip to hip and all the way up my middle, like, is that good enough for you? Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. It's Carrie here. I hope our time together
0:28.9	today helps you thrive in life and leadership today. Talking about divorce. You know,
0:33.7	to be honest with you, when I was a lead pastor, this was always a really difficult conversation.
0:38.5	And for people whose marriage broke down, I would honestly say, looking back on those 20 years,
0:42.8	I never had the best answer. You know, I was empathetic. I was trying to figure it out, but I'm kind of like,
0:49.2	you know, I think I know what the Bible teaches about this. Well, today we sit down and we go into a deep dive on divorce with Lisa Turkhurst. And she opens up about the end of her marriage. She offers perspective on the difference between difficult and destructive marriages, the biblical grounds for divorce, and how to help people in a tough marriage. Honestly, I think this is one of those episodes you probably want to send to your entire staff,
1:10.9	at least your pastoral staff, because I think it's going to create some nuances.
1:14.7	So a lot of you know who Lisa is.
1:16.2	She's the president, chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 ministry and the author of eight New York
1:22.3	Times bestsellers, including her latest, which is all about the end of her marriage.
1:28.7	So you can connect with her at Lisa Turkers.com or on social media at Lisa Turkers.
1:33.9	And now for my conversation with Lisa.
1:36.5	Lisa, it's so good to be together again. Welcome back.
1:39.4	Thank you so much, Carrie.
1:40.7	It's always an honor to be with you.
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