CNLP 764 | Why Christians Can't Trust ChatGPT: Bobby Gruenewald on Scripture and YouVersion's Rise to 1 Billion Installs
The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Carey Nieuwhof
4.8 • 2.2K Ratings
🗓️ 4 November 2025
⏱️ 82 minutes
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Summary
YouVersion CEO Bobby Gruenewald discusses what's right and wrong with AI, sharing some shocking examples of why Christians should be cautious about trusting AI for biblical accuracy. Bobby also explains how it took 13 years to reach 500 million installs, but only four years to reach a billion, and the changes YouVersion made to accelerate bible reach.
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| 0:00.0 | The Art of Leadership Network |
| 0:02.7 | I told them that I was a child |
| 0:04.4 | and that I was interested in having sex with my partner. |
| 0:09.1 | So this is a Christian chat box? |
| 0:10.7 | Christian, yeah, Christian. |
| 0:11.8 | Okay. |
| 0:12.6 | I think it was one or two prompts in. |
| 0:14.5 | It gave me specific instructions |
| 0:16.2 | with details around foreplay and other things. |
| 0:20.8 | And then it included a verse from Paul. |
| 0:26.6 | Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast. It's Carrie here. Hope our time together |
| 0:30.9 | helps you thrive in life and leadership. Man, I've loved all the connection we've had so far this |
| 0:35.4 | fall. Got a lot more travel coming up and spending a lot of time in Nashville this fall. |
| 0:40.7 | So if you're in the area, we'll probably cross paths, I think, at some point. |
| 0:44.9 | And thanks for letting us know consistently how this is making a difference. |
| 0:49.2 | We do not take your time lightly. |
| 0:51.5 | Want to bring you the best conversations I can. |
| 0:53.9 | Love this one with Bobby |
| 0:55.5 | Grunwald. A lot of you know Bobby, he's been at Life Church, almost since the beginning, I think. |
| 1:00.8 | And he's the pioneer of you version, church online, and so much else. Today we talk about |
| 1:07.0 | can you really trust ChatGPT as a Christian? And Bobby's answer to that is, oh, not really. |
| 1:13.2 | And you'll find out why. Plus, we talk about scripture and you versions rise to one billion, |
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