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The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

CNLP 753 | Why White Christian Men Are Afraid to Preach the Bible — Therapy, Calling, and Comedy with Julian Lowe

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Management, Business

4.82.2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 September 2025

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Julian Lowe never expected to be a pastor, which ironically freed him up to become one. He talks about what he learned at the Groundlings, in Music, and in ministry, sharing why he feels white men are afraid to preach the Bible, and how to speak the biblical truth to people who disagree with you.

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0:00.0

The Art of Leadership Network.

0:02.9

There was a real strong effort in media and culture to make specifically white Christian men afraid to preach the Bible.

0:14.6

And this is going to sound weird, but one of my biggest advantages is that I'm black.

0:18.9

Honestly, I think I can say things that other people feel like they can't say.

0:27.1

Welcome to the Kerry Newhoff Leadership Podcast.

0:29.4

It's Carrie here, and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

0:33.0

Today, Julian Lowe.

0:35.1

I met Julian about five years ago, fascinating guy, preaches in L.A., and I wanted you to hear his story.

0:41.9

I found some really surprising things. Like, you know, have you ever heard of the groundlings?

0:46.0

Well, they're like the comedy troupe that almost everybody on Saturday Night Live and so many of the comedians you love have come through.

0:53.1

Well, he went there too. And he was also

0:54.9

in the music industry. Now he's a pastor. How does that all mix together? And he's got a really

0:59.8

fascinating take on why white Christian men are afraid to preach the Bible. It has something to do with

1:05.4

the culture. And I think a lot of you will relate to it. We also talk about going to therapy,

1:09.8

about staying strong in ministry. He's got a lot

1:13.5

of fascinating points. I think you're going to love it. Hey, wherever you're listening to this podcast,

1:17.9

really glad that you're here. Some of you are brand new. I love how this thing keeps going,

1:21.9

like 11 years into it. Crazy to see so many of you discovering it for the first time. And then I always meet OGs who

1:28.8

have been here from the very beginning. So I'm on the road a lot. I was, well, most recent trips,

1:34.8

New York, L.A., Chicago. I'm going to be in Dallas in September and, well, a whole bunch of

1:40.5

other places that escape me right now. But if you're at an event I'm at,

2:04.3

would you come up and say hello? Let me know. I love the podcast. Of course, we've got a YouTube version as well. And we're on pretty much all of the platforms. A lot of you starting to listen, watch on Spotify as well. So welcome. Really glad that you're there. If you love conversations like this, please share it with a friend, maybe send it to your team, and leave a rating and review.

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