The Art of Leadership Network. So there is a stat that says the average person will waste an

entire year of their life or more looking for lost or misplaced items. Welcome to the

Kerry Newhofe Leadership podcast. It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps

you thrive in life and

leadership. Well, today a totally different tack. And before you tune out, okay, before you're like,

I'm not going to listen to this one. Just listen in. I really believe there is a direct connection

between how you lead and your physical environment. I mean, I remember I had a professor in law school who just, you know, had an office that

almost was like an episode of orders.

He knew where everything was, but like it was really hard to operate.

I'm a minimalist.

And I've got Andrew Mellon on the podcast.

Some of you, OGs, will remember Andrew.

He was on in the early days.

And we update this conversation. And he basically helps people organize things. If you think about the self-storage

business, think about, well, you know, most people can't even parking their garages, things like that.

Flutter has gotten out of control. I think there's a direct connection to leadership. So we're going to talk

about all that and a whole lot more. And one more testimonial, just in case you think this is OCD

Kerry talking, which perhaps it is, is I just went through my home studio. We redid it about a year

ago. I wasn't happy with it. I had too much stuff. So I just spent 12 hours going through every single

cable labeling it, minimizing the setup. I'm almost done as I record this and I'll tell you,

I am so happy. Plus, I share lots of other personal stories in this podcast with Andrew too. Anyway,

I think you're really going to enjoy it. I hope it makes your life a

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