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Welcome to the Keri New Hoff leadership podcast episode 536.

It's Keri here and well I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

I am so excited to bring you or perhaps introduce you to Brian Clark.

I got a big backstory on that. Hang on for that just a second.

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So Brian Clark is known popularly online as copy blogger.

And those of you who work in the online marketing space whether that's for churches or in the for profit world probably know about copy blogger.

And the fun part is I kind of built a lot of what I do like this podcast to some extent but actually all the blogging I did.

I just kept reading copy blogger over and over again.

Fast forward to a few months ago I'm in Cabo for Cabo Press with Chris Lama conference in Mexico.

And who's there but Brian Clark and we become fast friends I get to thank him.

I'm like, man, dude, your stuff changed my life.

And so I just had the opportunity to bring his wisdom to you today.

So if you've ever wondered about online marketing, if you ever wondered about well, how do you get noticed online?

If you want to know how things are changing, we do a very deep dive in this 90 minute conversation.

It could have easily been three hours.

And Brian and I talk about how to attract and keep an audience.

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