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Welcome to the Carrie New Hoff leadership podcast.

It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

Man, I love meeting young leaders and we got a couple of incredible young leaders on the podcast today.

Joey and Christy Spears are some of the best marketers and branding people I know.

When we talk about top marketing mistakes, church leaders make how to get noticed online and the keys to effective entrepreneurship when you're in your teens and 20s, they have quite a story.

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Let me tell you a little bit about Joey and Christy Spears.

They are the founders of Creative Rise and I need brand therapy.com as two young newly married entrepreneurs their aim is to build a world where more people succeed doing what they love.

After building a six figure creative agency as a teenager, Joey decided to share the secrets of building a creative business.

And so he started Creative Rise, a business education platform for creatives.

He also started I need brand therapy.com a consulting service for large and small organizations and brands.

Today he is a brand strategist, marketing consultant and communicator.

Christy Spears founded a thriving destination wedding photography business and now shoots commercially for large companies such as La Croix or La Croix for all you Americans, sparkling water and anthropology.

She is the co-owner of Creative Rise and the co-founder of a nonprofit compassion causes that brings clean water to Nicaragua.

We talk about all that and more. I think you are going to love it.

Research from Harvard Business Review found that during a recession firms that cut costs faster and deeper than rivals actually don't flourish.

And businesses that boldly invest more than their rivals during a recession don't always fare well either.

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