CNLP 515 | Jim Burgen and Jesse DeYoung on the Anatomy of Toxic Church Leadership, Church Growth and Identity, and How Leadership Crushes You

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

Carey Nieuwhof

Management, Business

4.8 • 2.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 August 2022

⏱️ 127 minutes

🔗️ Recording | iTunes | RSS

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

Flatirons Church Lead Pastor, Jim Burgen, and Executive Pastor, Jesse DeYoung, talk candidly and openly about how a toxic leadership culture developed at Flatirons, how Jim ended up fusing church size and growth with his personal identity, how the weight of leading a large church became crushing, the impact of a forced sabbatical, and how Jim came back to a different, healthier and more humble kind of leadership. Get more on this episode by going to https://careynieuwhof.com/episode515.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0	Hey podcast listeners, just a quick note before we jump into today's episode.
0:04.8	I think this is one of the most important conversations we've ever had on this podcast.
0:08.5	However, there were a few audio issues when we were recording.
0:12.0	We didn't realize it until afterwards.
0:15.0	We thought about redoing the interview, but sometimes you just don't get the kind of
0:19.6	candor that we got in this interview.
0:21.5	So I hope it won't be too distracting.
0:23.8	You will notice some issues from time to time.
0:26.0	Anyway, with that said, here is today's episode and one of the most important conversations
0:31.3	we've had on this show.
0:33.6	The Art of Leadership Network
0:40.2	Welcome to the Kerry New Half Leadership Podcast.
0:42.9	It's Kerry here and today we are going to have a conversation honestly.
0:48.4	I didn't know that I would ever have if you are a leader, particularly if you're a church leader.
0:53.6	What do you do if there is a toxic culture in the church?
0:57.6	Can you fix it?
0:58.7	And I think you're going to be super encouraged by today's conversation.
1:02.2	Jim Bergen and Jesse D. Young from Flat Irons Church are joining me.
1:06.4	I'll tell you more about that in a minute.
1:08.4	Today's episode is brought to you by Pro Media Fire.
1:12.0	You can book your free consultation and let the pros help you grow your social media
1:16.3	by going to ProMediaFire.com slash Kerry.
	...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Previous episode | Next episode

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Carey Nieuwhof, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Carey Nieuwhof and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.