Welcome to the Carey NewHoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carey NewHoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 461 of the podcast, it's Carey here and I hope

our time together today helps you thrive in life and leadership.

And very excited to have Katie Cole back on the podcast, we cover a bunch of stuff.

I mean, this is a very timely episode in light of the great resignation and trying to position

not just leaders, but women leaders on your team.

And she has so many insights, so I think you're going to love it.

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So in this episode, we are going to cover whether the gender pay gap actually exists.

There's debate on that.

I love what Katie has to say, the challenges of hybrid offices and also finding your leadership

voice.

Katie has spent the last 25 years serving in local church ministry as an executive director

of one of America's largest and fastest growing multi-site churches.

She has been a director of leadership network, a founding member of the women's executive

pastor network and has authored the best selling book developing female leaders.

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