Welcome to the Carey New Hof Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in

your business.

And now your host, Carey New Hof.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 434 of the podcast.

It's Carey here, and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well, we have a wide ranging conversation with Steve Carter.

Steve was the teaching pastor at Willow Creek Community Church until 2018.

We are going to talk about what happened and his perspective on it.

And I'll have some things to say at the end of this podcast.

Just a warning.

There's some sensitive matters.

And if you know the story, you know what I'm talking about, we'll get into it in a minute.

But we're going to go beyond that as well.

What the crisis taught him is a millennial leader.

My character matters so much and what Steve's up to now as a leader as well.

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So Steve and I are going to talk about, well, what happened at Willow Creek a few years

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