Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 420 of the podcast.

It's Carrie here and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

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my guest today, Mark Clark and I are offering it's called the art of better reaching.

It's a brand new online course.

You might say, wait a minute, didn't I hear that before?

Yeah, a couple of years ago, Mark and I released the art of better preaching and we've been

able to help thousands of leaders become better communicators.

So that's still available, but we put our heads together and said, what can we do to serve

the church even more?

And both of us have had a fair degree by the grace of God of success in reaching unchurched

people in a highly post-Christian culture.

Mark and I have both done ministry in Canada.

He's Vancouver based.

I'm Toronto based.

This has been a post-Christian nation for decades now.

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