Welcome to the Carey New Hof Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carey New Hof.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 418 of the podcast.

It's Carey here, and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before, so

glad to have a good friend back, Tony Morgan is in the house, and we're going to talk church

today.

A lot of you are involved in church, a lot of you lead churches, and some of you don't

go to church.

And well, we're going to talk about why that is.

And today's episode is brought to you by Pro Media Fire.

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growth.

And by Tony's own unstuck group, you can get his free church trends report that we talk

about by going to the unstuck group.com forward slash trends.

Well, there has been a lot that's happened in the last year, and we try to tackle it from

so many different angles.

And today we're back to a conversation that was on my mind all the time when I let a church

for 20 years, and that is attendance trends.

How do you even assess what's going on today?

What do the numbers really mean?

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