Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast, a podcast all about leadership, change,

and personal growth, the goal to help you lead like never before in your church or in your

business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody, and welcome to episode 415 of the podcast, it's Carrie here, and

I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

I'm so glad to have Dave Ferguson back on the podcast today, I'll tell you more about

Dave in a moment, but I also want to thank our partners for bringing this to you absolutely

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But we are talking about the future, which is one of my favorite things to talk about.

And Dave is a pioneer of that.

We are going to talk about the future of church, but I know there's a lot of business leaders

listening and people who don't go to church.

And I think often the church is a harbinger kind of the past into the future.

We're a little bit behind on many, many things.

And I say that as somebody who's very involved in the church and we're trying to figure out

what to do.

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