Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 387 of the podcast. My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today

helps you lead like never before and Merry Christmas.

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forward slash Carrie. I'm excited to welcome Harris the third on the podcast and

we have a wide-ranging conversation about success at an early age, how to recover from cynicism.

Yeah, has this year made you a little more cynical?

It's a battle, isn't it?

Recapturing Wonder as a leader. It's a battle, isn't it?

Recapturing Wonder as a leader.

I could not emphasize how important that is, I think, to, you know, a lot of you are young

leaders, but if you go ahead a couple decades in your life, you are going to want to have

wonder as a companion.

I know as somebody myself who's been in leadership for 25 years, I see the difference

between leaders who have lost it and grown cynical and leaders who have the sense of wonder.

I know 80 year olds who have a sense of wonder and I'm like, yep, one day I want to be like that.

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