Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your

host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode three hundred and fifty four of the podcast my name is

Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never

before my guest today is Joe Saxton I met her at last year's

global leadership summit in Chicago.

And man, she dropped a couple of bombs that just really, really hit me and I said,

hey, can you come on my podcast?

So anyway, she's a leader worth following,

so glad that you're tuning in for this.

And today's episode is brought to you by Glue.

You can learn more about your church's online audience

so you can better engage them at glue insights.

com forward slash carry that's g l-o-o insights dot com forward slash carry and I'm so excited

about a brand new resource Tony Martin's unstuck group has.

They've got one day master class about the key shifts churches need to make because of

coronavirus you can actually get a free copy of lesson one at the unstuck group.com

forward slash carry so anyway I hope your summer is going okay we are going to get

into something this today's episode's a little bit of a cautionary

tale because I want to pick Joe's brain in this conversation about

burnout and she had a more severe case than I did and that is something that's really on my heart.

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