Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 342 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

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forward slash church growth and by craft and character I'll be speaking along with some

other church communicators in an interactive dialogue you can participate in June 4th by

going to craft and character.org. Well my guest today is Nicky Gumbull and Nicky's an

absolute delight he's a former barrister attorney turned vicar,

and he leads Holy Trinity Brompton

and also Alpha worldwide.

Alpha is something that over 20 million Christians

have been through and millions have found

faith in and Nicky talks today about how he's changed his mind about online ministry.

He was someone who really believed they never had online church and they're one of the

largest and fastest growing churches in all of England and he didn't believe in online church and he wasn't

really convinced Alpha could be anything but an in-person

event and of course with all the events that have happened they had to go online

or chose to go online and it totally changed his mind about what God can do in online ministry.

So if you're one of those skeptics and I've run into quite a few of them to be honest with you,

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