Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 319 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Today's episode is brought to you by Red Letter Challenge and Pro Media Fire.

I got to tell you, one of my favorite all-time guests is back on the podcast today.

I think this is number four for Craig, fourth interview.

Never Boring, always amazing.

One of the questions I get frequently from you as listeners,

as leaders, is, so what is so and so really like?

And I gotta tell you, when it comes to Craig Grishell better than you even imagine.

He has been a great friend of me as somebody who has really taken a personal interest who's

just been so kind and one of the things I'll just brag on Craig for a second that's cool is as I travel around and meet other

leaders it's amazing how many people he's personally invested in particularly

when you hear the beginning part of this

interview where he talks about hiring a leadership coach to help him become even

more efficient as if that is possible. Because if you know Craig, you know that there are very few people who are more efficient or more effective.

He is a New York Times best-selling author,

pastor of the largest or one of the largest churches in North America.

He is a leadership expert.

His leadership podcast is a don't miss for me.

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