Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 266 of the podcast. My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time

together today helps you lead like never before well it's an incredibly exciting week

we have been in the early stages of the Church Growth Master Class, and tomorrow the price

changes.

So if you haven't yet checked out what's happening at Church Growth Master Class, we got a special

launch rate on for 24 more hours.

Jeremy McDonald and I, who I'll introduce in a minute,

talk all about church growth.

He grills me on the backstory of our church.

I've been here for 24 years. What were some of the barriers?

And sometimes you know when you hear stuff like, oh church growth it's like, yeah great you're

going from a thousand to two thousand or whatever now. We started with a handful of people, literally.

So when you talk about church growth barriers, we had to break the 10 barrier, the 20 barrier,

the 50 barrier, the 100, the 200, the 500, the 1,000, and now the 1,500 barrier.

So I got a little bit of experience in that area and we talk all about it in the podcast.

And also, how do you get people who don't want to

change to change yeah Jeremy asked me all about that so I had him he's actually

on our staff at connects as one of our campus pastors I had him interview me

today and I want to give you the whole back story behind the

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