Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 265 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today

helps you lead like never before.

Well, we are into glorious late spring and early summer,

absolutely my favorite season.

I just love being outside.

And I don't know about you,

but my podcast listening goes up

when the weather is nice.

That's because I'm doing stuff like mowing the lawn and out on my bike and like out for

walks so I've already binge listened this spring and I hope you're doing the same and

if you happen to be tuning in for the first time

or you are a regular listener,

you're gonna love today's guest.

His name is Les McEwen.

This is his third time on the podcast.

He was on on episodes 112 and episode number 2006 as well and I just love

how generously is with leaders and less is one of those people that when he talks I see my

whole leadership life flash before my eyes so we've already talked about the

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