Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your

host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 243 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today

will help you lead like never before.

Man, a lot of us are church leaders,

a lot of us are involved in church, but maybe leading in the marketplace.

And I just love it when Rich Birch is on the podcast.

He's been on a few times.

And I sit down and talk to Rich because he's unlike almost anybody else that I know he's

worked at three large like mega churches that are multi site and help launch like a

lot of campuses and he studies growth and one of the things he

shares with us today is what the 6% of growing churches do particularly in

respect of their weekend services,

that 94% of churches don't.

Like there's just common denominators

among what growing organizations do.

And he's actually talking about basically how to do what you're already doing better.

Like your messages drive so much of what happens on the weekend.

And honestly, we don't talk about him enough and Rich talks about how to talk about that in a really helpful way so I think

you're gonna love this plus he's got some really great stuff for church leaders you

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