Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode two hundred 207 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff,

and I hope our time together today helps you lead

like never before.

Man, if you joined us last week or recently

for the first time.

I'm glad you're back because I am really excited

about bringing you today's guest.

I don't know about you, but on my strength finders,

if you've ever done that, my number one strength finders if you've ever done that my number one strength

future my friends joke I don't live in the present I live in the future I'm

already there and Bobby Grunwald makes a fascinating conversation.

If you're curious about the future,

interested in it.

In this episode, we talk about First Mover Advantage.

Like this is a big idea, a big concept that I think connects a lot of the dots at least for me personally

we talk about innovation artificial intelligence where technology is going

and the future church it It's a fascinating conversation.

No one better to talk to about it than Bobby

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