Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership

change and personal growth. The goal? To help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now your host

Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 192 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well, I'm really excited to have Caleb Colton back back on the podcast.

Caleb's become a really good friend of mine

and many of you you'll know him from his first book,

Messy Grace, and actually he holds a distinction

of having one of the most downloaded episodes of all time on this

podcast and that's saying something 192 episodes in.

Back on episode 33 in the very first year of the podcast I had Caleb on where he talked about

growing up with gay parents what it was like when his mom came out as a lesbian and

his dad came out as gay they split up and he talks about a really honest emotional journey of growing up.

He became a Christian, has a different view than his parents about life and

and so on and talks about fighting for the relationship.

Really powerful and that story he tells in part in messy grace and he told it to us

on a great conversation episode 33.

We'll link to that in the show notes.

He's back with his new book called God of Tomorrow and I'm so glad Caleb wrote this

because he speaks into the culture and as you know we live in a pretty

angry time and Caleb helps bring some sense into this I love it when people try

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