Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business and now

your host Carrie Newhoff.

Well hey everybody and welcome to episode 189 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well, we talked about this last week a little bit when I had Gina McClain and Jessica Buehler on the

podcast and we're gonna go there again today. This is the personal side of

leadership which I am convinced is what sinks leaders more than anything else because you know what you can be the smartest guy in the room you can have an education

you can educate yourself you can you know you can be bright

But if you can't make the personal journey like if you if you kind of get burned or

you don't know how to avoid the discouragement and the challenges of leadership you're

not going to make it as a leader. That's true in

church. That's true in business. And it's often those emotional personal issues

which are really spiritual issues that sink us. And so today I'm so grateful that my friend rusty George is

back on the podcast and we are going to talk about trust we spend a lot of time

talking about this and this is one of those cases where like all of a sudden I felt like he was reading my mail and I'm like oh I have done that you'll kind of hear it in in interview. I think it's fascinating. I found it really

helpful and I hope you do too, no matter what you lead. I'm pretty excited before we jump into the interview about some travel that's coming up.

While you are listening to this, I am in Guatemala with compassion. Love the work that they do there and

then I'm spending the month of May in Australia and New Zealand and

I know a vast majority of listeners to this podcast are in the US of A and we love

America also lots of Canadian listeners, but the next nations are Australia,

New Zealand.

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