Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 132 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today

helps you and maybe your team lead like never before.

This was a really fascinating conversation this episode.

I had it with Greg Atkinson and Greg does this thing where he goes and like is a secret shopper

at a church.

So I just want to confess I thought you know this is going to be

interesting but I kind of thought I had it all figured out man could not have been

more wrong. In fact this is the first interview I really couldn't finish in an hour and a bit and so I've

invited Greg back at a future date because he gave an audit that was so thorough of what you need to look for in your

church in terms of like being

welcoming to outsiders that we barely got in the door and the main worship service

before the hour was up and you're gonna be like really you spent that much time

on like the parking lot and

like the reception I just found this fascinating and took a lot of notes and I hope you'll

enjoy it too so that's our guest this week it's Greg Atkinson and he's going to help us think through how a

visitor really experiences your site the secrets of a secret church shopper so

anyway that's going to be a lot of fun.

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