Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 130 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff and I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

Well we are 130 episodes in which is fun and one of the things I love doing is bringing back guests that

really made a contribution and Scott Saul's is one of them he was with us for you

longtime listeners back on episode 49 for the first time. And today we are going to talk

about how to actually make friendships with people who are different than you in a

pretty polarized culture has

has probably gotten more polarized,

not more unified, and how do you even

bring the gospel about in a context like that and not become part of the problem?

And Scott is one of the leading voices on that in my view.

And honestly, I think one of the needed voices, so I think you're going to love this today. I think it's probably

going to challenge you but hopefully it's going to challenge you in a good way and here's another reality. I know some of you,

honestly you feel pretty isolated and relationships are breaking down and how do you actually

build authentic relationships in the age we live in.

Scott's and I have a fantastic conversation about that.

So that's coming up today. I also wanted to

say thanks to all of you who are reaching out. Hey for all of you leaving

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