Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before.

In your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey, everybody, and welcome to episode 82 of the podcast. My name is Curie New Hoff, I hope our time together today helps

you lead like never before. Man, I'm so thrilled to have David Kinnaman back on the podcast.

David's become a friend over the last few years. Those of you who are

longtime listeners or subscribers, which is free by the way, just go subscribe right now.

You can jump right back to episode 24 where David and I sat down and had a

fascinating conversation about why people are attending church less often and

we kind of pick it up today because we are talking about his brand new book that he just released with

Gabe Lyons and the ideas in it. It's called Good Faith. Being a Christian when

society thinks you're irrelevant and extreme.

And I mean, I talk about those with David at the beginning of the interview,

but my goodness, even in the last year, I feel like the cultural attitude toward the church

in North America has shifted and it's become maybe a

little more hostile a little more irrelevant it's just fascinating and

David of course with research puts words to it so I think you you're going to love this today. We'll jump

into that in just a minute. Thank you to everybody who continues to listen,

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