Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhoff.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 76 of the podcast.

My name is Carrie Newhoff.

I hope our time together today helps you lead like never before.

And I've been excited about this episode for a while.

Well, honestly, I mean, I get excited about all the episodes, but this one in particular has really got me excited and I'll tell you why

Brian is somebody I didn't know a year ago and he visited us he came to an orange tour stop I think maybe in

Indianapolis last year by the way orange conference orange tour amazing

places for leaders orange conference happens end of April and I'm going to be

across the street this year at the rethink leadership conference. If you haven't

registered yet don't miss it go to rethink leadership.com and then in the

tour in the fall usually September to November we go to a bunch of cities and I guess that's where Brian was and I didn't meet him but he met my good friend Reggie Joyner

Reggie connected Brian and I when I I heard his story, I'm like,

oh dude, I got to have you on the podcast.

This is incredible.

So yeah, Brian has actually done a great job taking churches that many people would say either don't

have life like dead close the doors or whose best days are way way way behind them and

he's seen incredible turnarounds and he's done this four times.

This is this is just unreal.

So a fascinating, fascinating conversation.

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