Welcome to the Carrie Newhoff Leadership Podcast. A podcast all about leadership, change and personal growth.

The goal, to help you lead like never before in your church or in your business.

And now your host, Carrie Newhaw.

Well, hey everybody and welcome to episode 43 of the podcast.

Hey, we are right into Summer Now and wherever you are.

Thanks for taking the time to listen.

I really, really hope that this episode helps you lead like never before.

Today we're going to be talking to a

guy that probably a lot of you who are in church world anyway know his name is

Jim Tom Berlin and I don't know whether anybody knows more about the multi-site church than Jim and he's also really gotten into church mergers which we'll talk about a little bit during our interview today

Really excited to have him on the podcast and I'm excited because you know I think I think

it doesn't take a lot to figure out I'm pretty passionate about churches that want to reach people

and I'm pretty passionate about the condition of the church period and I think one of the great

stories that's been written over the last 20 years is Multipite Church and I think when it started

I mean it was really what mega churches were doing, but what's really cool about multi-site is now, you know, not huge churches are doing it, and I think with this whole merger thing, there's something for everyone in here because what's happening is you know probably less than 10% of churches are growing as we talked about with Tom Raynor back in episode 36 and in some areas it's probably like 5% of churches are growing and so what do you do if you have a church that stuck what do you do if you have a church that you know is sitting on resources or assets and doesn't know what to do with them well Well, a lot of churches are seeing mergers lately. And then growing churches are also expanding

into multiple locations.

So I think it's a fascinating conversation,

at least if you're passionate about the church like I am and I know

like a surprising percentage of church leaders are thinking about going

multi-sights so it's just a fascinating thing if you have a heart for the

kingdom and if your church is

multi-site or is thinking about what's next, Jim has got some fascinating insights

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