Hi, I'm Kate Rooney, a year ago, Sam Bankman-Freed, also known as SPF, was revered in the crypto

world, running an empire valued at $32 billion.

Now the disgraced founder and XCEO of the bankrupt crypto exchange FTX has found himself

on trial for allegedly master mining one of the biggest financial frauds in U.S. history.

I sat down with Anthony Scaramucci, founder of Skybridge Capital, for my documentary,

The Collapse of FTX Insiders Tell All, available now at cmbc.com slash FTX.

Scaramucci was a business partner and a friend of SPF, in the early days he trusted and liked

Bankman-Freed, describing him as the Mark Zuckerberg of crypto.

But a lot has changed since then, and now Scaramucci wonders if he was rubbing elbows with someone

he now calls the Bernie Madoff of crypto.

So what was your first impression of Sam?

I liked him, I mean he was nerdy, he had the headset on, he had the hair was disheveled,

but I have a kid that Sam's age, so it didn't surprise me culturally, he was a little nerdy,

very smart, pretty definitive direction in terms of where he wanted to go, I liked him.

How would you describe him to somebody who's never met him, never heard of him?

Well, I mean there's a post fact, there's a pre fact, so I would say pre fact, I would

have described him, I mean I thought he was the Mark Zuckerberg of crypto, is he now the

Bernie Madoff of crypto, will let the judge and jury decide that, but when I first met him

I would have said that he was a visionary, he had an idea of where to go for an exchange.

In the United States we have two very robust exchanges, but they're both from turns of

the century of years ago, you know, the button would treat the New York Stock Exchange,

that's a 1700s exchange, the CME is an 1800s exchange, and Sam was building a 21st century

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