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The Interview

Clément Beaune: Is Covid-19 exposing weaknesses in the EU?

The Interview

BBC

News, Government, Politics

4.3537 Ratings

🗓️ 12 February 2021

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Stephen Sackur speaks to France’s Europe Minister, Clément Beaune. The European Union faces a huge Covid challenge. The vaccine rollout has been slow, internal free movement is a concern, and tensions with Britain post-Brexit have risen. Is the virus exposing weaknesses in the EU?

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0:00.0

Welcome to Hard Talk on the BBC World Service with me, Stephen Sacker. My guest today has made a rapid

0:06.0

rise through the ranks in French politics. Clement Bone is not yet 40, but he's already

0:11.8

Minister for European Affairs and a trusted ally of President Emmanuel Macron. The COVID pandemic

0:19.1

has presented France and the EU with an enormous challenge,

0:23.8

and right now the bloc is struggling to find effective answers. Most obvious is the relatively

0:30.2

slow rollout of a mass vaccination program. France has given some two million people their first

0:37.4

dose, while the UK total is

0:39.6

approaching 13 million. Some in Britain and in Europe link that to Brexit, with the perception

0:46.4

being that Britain has been able to respond more nimbly than a collective group of 27 nations

0:53.7

sharing one procurement plan.

0:56.6

There are other big questions, too, with the virus mutating and the future uncertain,

1:01.8

how dangerous are open borders?

1:04.7

And what will that mean for an EU club devoted to the idea of internal freedom of movement. Well, Clement Bone joins me now from Paris.

1:16.3

Welcome to Hard Talk. Good evening. Thank you for his invitation.

1:20.3

It's a pleasure to have you on the show. Minister, I'd like to begin with the COVID crisis facing all of Europe.

1:28.8

Would you say you are satisfied with the way the European Union has rolled out the mass vaccination programme?

1:38.1

Listen, I think we have made a choice collectively.

1:41.5

That was not an obligation, but we chose to do so with all the EU countries

1:46.8

to buy together the vaccines. And now we have six contracts. We will have probably two more

1:53.8

with pretty much all the laboratories making all the available vaccines in the words at this very moment. I think this choice remains

2:04.4

a relevant choice because if we had not done so at the EU level, I think we would be now

2:10.3

in a competition between member states, between countries, trying to get the doses that the

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