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It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

Club World Cup Chaos: Part Two - Man United, Brazil, and Hang Gliding with Roy Keane!

It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast

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History, Rob Draper, Jonathan Wilson, Football, It What Was What It Was, The Overlap, Football History, Premier League, Four Four Two, When Saturday Comes, English Football, The Blizzard, Stick To Football, Sports, Soccer

4.9667 Ratings

🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Welcome back to It Was What It Was, the football history podcast.


With the Club World Cup underway, we wrap up the week with Part Two of our Origin Story series, focusing on Manchester United’s chaotic 2000 Club World Cup campaign in Brazil.


Jonathan Wilson and Rob Draper unpack United’s controversial decision to withdraw from the FA Cup, the disorganised nature of the tournament, and the fiery clash between European entitlement and South American intensity.


Plus, we'll hear about the now-legendary story of Roy Keane, Teddy Sheringham, and Nicky Butt hang gliding over Rio - doing their best to stay out of sight of Sir Alex Ferguson!


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00:00 English Expectations and Brazilian Strength

00:48 Introduction to the Double History Podcast

00:58 The Infamous 2000 Club World Cup

02:01 FIFA's Ambitions and the Club World Cup

03:36 The Controversial Decision: Manchester United's Dilemma

04:27 Global Participation and FIFA's Motivations

07:09 Political Pressures and England's World Cup Bid

22:09 Manchester United's PR Disaster in Brazil

25:18 The Tournament Begins: Double Header in Sao Paulo

26:17 The Shabby Stadium and Initial Matches

27:16 David Beckham's Red Card Incident

28:22 United's Aloof Image and Public Relations Disaster

29:26 Tournament Progress and Group Stage Results

30:07 Vasco's Dominance Over Manchester United

33:11 Gary Neville's Struggles and Team Support

38:37 United's PR Disaster in Rio

40:13 Impact on United's Season and Future Tournaments

42:06 Reflections on the Club World Cup

50:43 Concluding Thoughts and Farewell


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0:00.0

There they were, claiming that the English weren't interested in the World Championship,

0:11.4

that the BBC sent 60 people to cover the tournament.

0:15.3

This shows that it was the most important competition that they have ever taken part in in their history.

0:22.0

They came here thinking they were going to win easily,

0:24.9

but they didn't count the strength of Vasco.

0:27.4

No Manchester night player would get in our team.

0:29.7

You think the defender, but Edmondo dribble pass could play here.

0:32.6

If I'm going to impress a fans, think I'd pay $50 million for Dwight York.

0:37.4

I have Ramario and Edgmundo.

0:40.1

That's a serious strike partnership.

0:42.1

Brazilian players are the best in the world.

0:44.3

United were on their hands and knees.

0:47.9

Welcome to It Was What It Was the Football History Podcast.

0:50.5

I'm Jonathan Wilson and with Rob Draper.

0:52.6

And that was the excitable Vasco da Gama president,

0:55.5

Eureko Miranda, on Vasco's 3-1 victory over Manchester United

0:59.7

in the Club World Cup in 2000.

1:03.1

Now in the first part of this two-part series

1:06.1

on early attempts at the Club World Cup,

1:09.7

we looked at all the prehistory

1:12.4

from the glory days of Sondland beating hearts in 1890,

1:16.5

through to some other examples in the 20th century

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