If I'd been a centre-forward and I'd got past Burnsy and Lloydy, and then you've got to get past Shelton, and Schulton came out, he used to cover the goal.

When I played five a side with them, I'd never pack it in until my side was winning.

But to get past

Shelton with his huge shoulders, a magnificent body was a killer. Well, welcome to it, was what it

was. That, of course, was Brian Clough talking about his great Nottinghamen Forest side. And with

Nottingman Forest now back in Europe after 30 years away from the elite competitions,

we thought, what better time to bring out the Brian Clough expert, who is, of course, Jonathan Wilson,

and talk about the great, I think these are some of the greatest triumphs in the English game ever,

when Nottingham Forest, a relatively small club, mid-sized club, go on to be champions of Europe,

really probably the best club in the world, potentially at that point, is an extraordinary story.

Jonathan, you're going to talk us through it. We're going to start, I think, with Brian Clough

going to Nottingham Forest. And this and this of course comes in a real down period

in some respects of his career where he's been drummed out at Leeds and is he seen as a bit of a

failure and it's a bit of a humiliation? Yeah he's definitely damaged goods so I mean recap his career

very quickly brilliant player scored loads of goals for Middlesprin, Sondland, mainly in the second flight.

He scored one goal only in the top flight.

And then he, boxing day 1962, gets a serious knee injury.

He suddenly got promoted that season, but he doesn't play any part in the second half of that season.

When he does finally come back, he manages three games. He scores one goal against Leeds. Apparently leads Jack Charlton and Mary Dance to the point as they walk off a pitch, Jack Charlton says to him, oh, you're back from your knee than Cluffy. And Clovey says, no, I'm done, that's it, that's the last ever the game and he never played again. He said it wasn't good enough. And I don't know if he was in

loads of pain, but he never played again. He said it wasn't good enough. And I don't know if he was in loads of pain, but he never played again. He won two England caps. He started drinking quite heavily as he tries to recover from a knee injury in the operation. He becomes a manager at Hartley Pools. He's very successful there at a tiny club with no budget.

He then goes to Derby, gets them promoted, and then wins the league with them.

Then he has a huge falling out with the Derby board and the chairman, Sam Longson.

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