Welcome to the OnLabs podcast.

Our special guest today is Eleanor Burger.

Oh my God.

We got Eleanor on today, Kevin.

People know Kevin, because I say Kevin's name all the time here.

But Kevin's like, you're going to have Eleanor?

I'm like, yeah, we're getting Eleanor today.

We're like, yep, we've got her.

And there she is.

If you're on YouTube, you can see her.

Hey, Eleanor, thank you for stopping by for the next hour and a half or so and sharing your story

with us. Yeah, sure. Thanks for inviting me, Bill. Really excited to be here. Awesome. Okay,

for the few people on the planet who don't know you, Eleanor, all right, just for the few. Give everybody a like your two-minute spiel on sort of what you're doing today.

So I work at Microsoft as an engineering manager at Code and AI Azure in a very interesting group called growth in innovation and specifically

working with startups and ISVs.

Isle by the way is this funny time.

Not everyone knows independent software vendors.

Basically companies that do software as their main thing,

and all sorts of startups.

And we kind of our group works with them, helping them, you know, build and scale on Azure

and kind of trying to do it securely and responsibly and reliably and with all the

latest and best of our technologies, but also learning from them because it turns out this

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