Closure (Part I & II)

That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

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True Crime, Tv & Film

4.6 • 7.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2025

⏱️ 138 minutes

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Summary

This week, Kara and Liza cover a two-part episode,“Closure” (Part I & II) (Season 1, Episode 10 & Season 2, Episode 3), and discuss the crimes of two different horrific rapists - Isaac Jones (a.k.a. "The Bronx Rapist") and Ronnie Shelton (a.k.a. "The West Side Rapist").

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United Press International
The New York Times 1
The New York Times 2
New York Daily News
New York Post 1
New York Post 2
WKYC
WFMJ
Associated Press
Cleveland.com
Reddit

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0:00.0	This is exactly right.
0:06.2	Of the Law and Order franchises,
0:08.3	SVU is considered especially watchable.
0:10.8	We are the amateur detectives
0:12.0	who kind of investigate the vicious felonies
0:14.1	these episodes are based on.
0:15.7	These are our stories.
0:17.2	Dun-dun!
0:17.8	Dun!
0:17.8	Dund. Yay, that's messed up an SVEU podcast. We're here. My name is Lisa Trager. And I'm Kara Klank,
0:42.2	and you know the drill on this pod. It's SVU. It's true crime. It's guests. And it's
0:48.8	chatting and it's movie reviews. And I did see one battle after another. And I fucking loved it. Good. Yeah.
0:56.1	I mean, I have not heard one person not like it. Seriously.
0:58.9	Seriously. I'm, I can't wait to see it. It's just been gorgeous in New York.
1:05.0	I know. I'm sure. It's been between 75 and 80. I've been out in the streets. Like, I cannot sit in a movie theater at the moment. And I live by them. I smell the popcorn. I want in. But I can't. I have to enjoy every moment. Yeah. And it's, the thing is, it's like, it's two hours and 40 minutes, but you don't notice at all. Like, it go. Like, it is well-paced. It is a movie like and i hear i max i think i'm gonna do
1:28.9	the i max or the 35 millimeter i'm gonna do something you know that the the people are saying to do
1:33.9	i don't and i'm not even like a big p t anderson fan like i like some stuff i love the pha movie
1:39.4	what'd you say nothing just like the pTA of it all is funny to me.
1:44.7	Yeah.
1:45.6	The new PTA?
1:46.8	Like, I don't know. It just makes me laugh. I'm, I'm on the PTA, but I'm not for the PTA. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't know what, like, I love Phantom Thread. I didn't like licorice pizza. I mean, he's very up and down for me.
1:59.7	This movie rocks.
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