We can start anywhere you want, but I'm thinking maybe you tell the audience, what is

CE5?

Oh, CE5.

Okay.

So, CE5 stands for close encounters of the fifth kind.

So I guess I should take you through the whole classification system.

So close encounters of the first kind is when you see a UFO in the sky, right?

The second kind is when there's some kind of physical evidence that is left behind, like a crop circle or radiation

or just some kind of tangible, you know, imprint that's left behind. The third kind is when the

occupants of the craft are seen, right?

The fourth kind is when a human is brought on board a spacecraft.

So like a contact experience or an abduction.

And then the fifth kind is human-initiated contact. So this was coined

originally by Dr. Stephen Greer, who created the whole global disclosure movement. I've done a

bunch of films with him. I owe my career to him. And he had this, he had a near-death experience when he was a kid,

and he went into this state of cosmic consciousness. And then having survived that, he wanted

to figure out how he could revisit that state without having to die.

So he learned transcendental meditation and became a meditation teacher.

And so he was experiencing these amazing blissful states without having to actually die.

So that's that's handy, right?

Yeah.

And so then one time he's meditating up in the mountains

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