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slash UK slash AI for people. I'll tell you what's amazing. As we start hour number two,

nothing good one coming up in about 20 minutes, Joe McCoy. What's amazing about David Pollock, a lot of good things about David Pollock.

But I do not believe, after all these years, he and I have ever spoken.

Now, part of the reason for that was, again, for a number of years, ESPN did not share guests.

Even when I worked at ESPN, they would not share a guess.

They're weird like that. We have a much better relationship with ESPN. Now, he's no longer with

ESPN. I'm just saying there's a reason or possibility that the reason I never spoke to him before

was because he was with ESPN for so long. So he is no longer and went off on his own.

And I'm so glad we had that conversation.

What a great conversation.

As far as a jungle debut goes, that's as good as you can get, especially with a dictator

blast.

Wow.

Tommy and I both were like, whoa, dude. Telephone number is toll free. We start hour number two. General McCoy is coming up at 20 past. So what happens

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