So companies are renewing efforts to get white collar workers to return to the office post-labor day.

Facebook parent company Metta is requiring three days in the office starting this month.

Zoom of all companies is demanding workers come in twice a week, which prompted a lot of people asking,

wait, Zoom has offices.

Even presidential Biden is urging federal workers to get back to the office this fall.

But some employees have found a kind of loophole, sure they'll come in,

but it probably won't be a nine to five workday anymore.

This continuing national improv, we might call it, over office workers days and hours and locations,

is impacting employers' ability to track productivity and employees' flexibility in their lives.

It's also kind of impacting other things, peak commute times.

As many of you know, our shifting, the inner reservations have become harder to snag earlier in the day and more.

So joining me now to discuss the latest in remote onsite and hybrid work and how it's changing,

not just where we work, but also when, is ABBA Baderai, Washington Post Economics correspondent,

one of her latest pieces in the Washington Post is titled,

workers cash in on a new flexibility, leaving the office after a few hours.

Oppa, thanks for coming on.

Welcome back to WNYC.

Thanks so much, Brian.

So I know reporters don't write the headlines, but what does that mean?

Workers cash in on a new flexibility.

Well, you know, as you mentioned, we have all of these companies that are mandating that workers come back into the office for two, three, four days a week.

But what's less likely is companies saying, okay, you need to be here for a full eight hours.

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