We are back with this week's episode and you can see from the title. There's a lot going on clicks has been banned for several seasons. We're going to talk all about it. What led to this whole thing and quite honestly, I think the truth will shock you. No, but seriously, there's a whole story behind it that is probably mega mega mega unfair and at least you're going to hear our perspective of it and give you guys all the cold hard facts. Alongside that, there's just so much more to talk about. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it. I'm going to talk about it.

I'm going to talk about Vino leaving Tundra and quite honestly, he disrespects the org and we're going to really dive into the deep end there. And there's just so much. It's been a pretty eventful week. I think all the episodes and lead up have been more or less upbeat. And there's a lot to celebrate. But as always, Fortnite keeps us right in the drama with these players and what's going on. So before we get there, though, I want to thank you guys for downloading this episode tune in with us, vibing with us. We appreciate all the y'all checking out the content. And of course, what we're building for you guys here.

Let's see for the rest of the year remains. We want to continue to plan plan all these episodes for y'all week to week. So thank you guys. Let's go ahead and start bringing in the boys, though, man. We got Panda. We got SBG on the mic here today. We're going to kick things off with the brother from another mother. We got Panda on this. What's up, Panda? Hey, man. Listen, good to be here. Race home from a car dealership. I went for an inspection and almost bought a brand new for Bronco. And I still have my GTI. So that's a good side.

I didn't buy a new car. That's hilarious. It's been good, man. Went to a museum today, went over to the old spot where we're staying to the museum. They had model ships. And they were like 10 foot large models. And apparently some of them are older than the actual ships. Because before you were allowed to build a ship, you had to build the model so the king could see what it would look like and make sure it worked. I was I was stunned. It was really cool. Now that sounds pretty sick. I

think our age is showing here, though, guys. If that also got you excited, yeah, we're the boomers. No, that that's pretty sick, man. A little bit of history there for y'all. I'm sure someone didn't expect that. So, you know, go ahead and take that one. But let's go ahead and start jumping into the into the mix of it. We're going to start with Vino. Well, we're going to save the clicks conversation for later. But let's begin with Vino. Vino is a professional player, probably the biggest star to rise. I would say outside of Miro and cold.

Right. In the last year or two or so for the EU region, he is definitely the star that has has really started to come up. And he's found himself on a number of different professional teams of being one of the most sought after professional players. And just recently announced that he exited out of tundra panda. I mean, we had a brief conversation before we jumped into this. And you had a lot to say about it. Because it just seems like he took this opportunity. And I don't know. He's burning some bridges on the way out. Okay. So.

Let's start this with one simple phrase or like sentence. And that is if you're an org out there, think about picking up Vino. Don't. And I'm saying don't right now. And the reason I'm saying this is esports is in a recession. We're struggling as an industry. There's a lot of things going on. And to pick up someone who is so blatantly disrespectful to previous orgs. Other people in the scene is just not okay. So now let me get into why I'm saying that.

And if you've listened to this podcast for a while, you know that I have hyped him up as arguably the number one player in the world. He is the best player in the world. Yes, he is single handily. One of if not the best player in the world. And I've hyped him up for that for quite some time. But in recent months. And of course, some people will defend his actions. But in recent months, he's had some incidents where he is just letting his success cloud his judgment and think that he is untouchable. Right. One example of this is turned Daisy.

He hosted an event not too long ago. And it was a co-ed event. So each team had to have one male, one female player competing in the event on game number five, Venno decides to kick without like disrespectfully kick the female from his party, not say anything to her. And then bring in rise to go on and play the game without them disrupting the entire flow of the tournament.

When when you have like so blatant disregard to do that, just to the other person that you were supposed to be playing with, that's disrespectful. And then it gets worse. So he goes into this and to turn Daisy's chat. The person that was kind of hosting the event when all this drama is unfolding and is sitting there saying in chat. And there are pictures out there. You can like look at these pictures of him and chat saying, I'll ruin 100 more tournaments. I don't care. And then him saying for four night.

It won't touch me. They'll never this will never affect my FNCS. Like some insanely disrespectful comments and thinking that he is holier than now in this four night competitive scene. And again, keep in mind, right. We're talking about person who in the past didn't have any of these kind of toxic public appearances, like not even close to any grant that he's a four night player. And you know, everyone gets a little edgy, if you will.

But Venno in Archie are two of the, you know, like, I would say more humble up until right now, like, just they've always done a pretty good job. They're still keeping a low profile and just kind of doing their thing.

What he does on livestream and the clips and talking to smack and stuff like that. Yeah, he's going to be that. But when you go out of your way to blatantly grief, a tournament that someone was like inviting you to like, not a, I'm not a fan of that at all.

You're talking thousands of dollars that goes into not only the prize pool, but the back end to actually host and administrative tournaments. I'm very happy practice server was not behind that one, because had, you know, Vino been invited by our team and done something like that.

I'd be pretty pissed off. Like, I'd take that very personally to me as like an organ. I was trying to put this all together and construct a dope event for the community. So for him to have that level of disrespect towards the creators.

I mean, it's just so unwarranted. Like, what, like, why would you go out of your way to do that? That's one. And then to take that the step further and literally be toxic in someone's Swiss chat. Like, you don't, you don't take it that far. Now that is just a personal attack on the creator. He's like, he actually didn't get banned on Twitch for that. Like, people get near indefinite suspension is that level of what they would call harassment at that point, because the griefing and then, of course, taking it into their personal chat. So if it was just, you know, several steps too far, even looking beyond, of course, maybe he was having a

a fun time in the moment. Now, as we just see you, of course, you, you have some, I'm sure, perspective and remarks on this. Let's just take it back from the beginning. Vino Lees, Tundra, and he begins to basically say, yeah, whatever. Who cares about what they basically put into me? You know, the, the, those are going away videos. Forget those documentaries. They didn't want me like, and there's just so much unpackage here. What's your take on Vino right now?

So this is really weird to me, really weird timing in the middle of FNCS. It's not the end of a month. Like, I'm just kind of confused why this happened. And maybe it is because he's on his like John Jones villain arc right now is they're like, all right, we've had enough.

This is too much. Maybe you're the best player in the world, but we are not willing to deal with what is going on. Because to me, you don't drop the best player or like top three player in the world right before they're about to go into finals in two weeks, like, figure it out. Pay them for one more month, figure it out. And they did it like a 30 minute documentary on him. Fortnite did their own little like three minute piece on him. It's not like there isn't marketing and that's what I'm talking about.

That's been in this player. To me, this screams, there is something else going on. And I don't think Tundra is going to come out and say it and maybe Vino will. He already seems like he's a little unhappy with like what all happened, but just weird, man, it doesn't make sense with everything that's happened.

I think is close as friend groups would kind of let them know like, hey, look, people are not really signing folks, like, look at all the free agents that are out there that are exceptional players with brands that are trying to do cool stuff that are vouching on a time like, hey, man, I'm willing to put in the work and I haven't been putting in this work and are still unsigned.

I think those were all these signs of like, yeah, let me work this out with with this organization that has been investing in me and building me up. But yeah, to your point, I also agree with you, there has to be some underlying reason why he would be so against Tundra in the sense that like, there's other ways to support a team, even even with your exit, right.

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