Welcome to Caffaro cast everyone. We're still coming at you free, unsponsored. I

want to make sure and throw that in. I've got Frank playing on his phone across from

me. Say hello Frank. Hello Frank. I've got the great hammer Tim

Gillingham on the on the other line man. I appreciate you coming on here.

No problem. My pleasure. It's all good to come on here and

bash a guy that go on a seven day outcome without a freaking carbon

off to this. I forgot you're still giving me crap about that. You did that. I

did. I didn't want to carry him. When the fuck did you do it? He talked

somebody else. Yeah there's some truth in that it was Doug Rosson. I was like,

yeah you don't need those man. Yeah that's a free timbered unit. Yeah I have a guy

pushing for standard. I was a guy pushing for sanity. Like maybe we should call

some guy a packer meetout. No and it's Snyder's like no I'll pack it out. Yeah that's

what you got Aaron for. Patten wait for binoculars I guess so he can pack

health meat. Yeah. There's a lot. See where I'm I'm kind of a logical guy. We just

want to get that out right at the beginning of the day. Sometimes I'm impervious to

logic. Didn't seem not that important at the time but you know gear wise you know

like one of the biggest things I had to trouble with at first as stupid as this

is is all the shit that that string hits. I'd have to worry about that with

more compound man cuff on my sleeve the collar on my shirt webbing on my

bino harness. I mean I was like you know the belt on my my cafar the big belt

buckle. I'd catch that bar tack the end of the webbing so it won't pull back

through the buckle. I'd catch that with my string that's like hitting a brick wall

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