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In a minute, I'll be joined by former Washington Redskin running back Clinton Portis,

who now is coaching with Deshawn Jackson

at Delaware State. That is a sentence I never thought I would utter, and I'm curious to hear

what Clinton says about himself coaching and then also Deshawn Jackson coaching. And I still

get kind of a kick out of it as I think Clinton's a super smart, was a super smart player.

But I just those were not the two.

If I had guessed like who's going to be coaching off this group, that was not the combo I would have anticipated.

More so for me, even especially with Deshaun, as Santana Moss kind of back me up on that.

He played with both those guys anyways.

But I still get a kick

out of it. I think it's great. And I think there's a lot of value to what these guys add. And I think

you'll hear that with Clinton when I, with some of the roads we go down about what he teaches

his players and the lessons from his own life that he imparts to them. And then I also ask him a

couple questions, like some of the most underrated players that he played with. And one of them was maybe not underrated. And as a guy

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