Clinical Psychologist Reveals How Trauma Can Trigger a Fawn Response | Dr. Ingrid Clayton
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Eric Skwarczynski
4.5 • 737 Ratings
🗓️ 22 December 2025
⏱️ 68 minutes
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Ingrid Clayton, PhD, is a writer and clinical psychologist in private practice in Los Angeles, California. She’s the author of Fawning: a powerful to the often-overlooked piece of the fight-flight-freeze reaction to trauma, Believing Me: Healing from Narcissistic Abuse and Complex Trauma, where she uncovers her personal experience of childhood trauma from a psychologist’s perspective, and Recovering Spirituality: Achieving Emotional Sobriety in Your Spiritual Practice. Ingrid is a regular contributor to Psychology Today, where her article “What is Self-Gaslighting?” is considered an essential read!
With a Masters in transpersonal psychology and a PhD in clinical psychology, Ingrid has a holistic approach to psychotherapy, incorporating trauma-informed modalities like Somatic Experiencing, EMDR, and other experiential ways of working with the nervous system. Ingrid has been using a relational approach to therapy since 2004, bringing her whole self to the work—including her personal experience, intuition, and education. This enables her to be in real connection and collaboration with her clients.
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| 0:30.2 | For me, to finally heal, I had to hold people accountable. |
| 0:35.3 | And that meant I will not sweep this under the rug anymore. If you cannot |
| 0:40.3 | have a real conversation about it, if you cannot even validate that this happened, I can't have |
| 0:46.3 | you in my life. The one thread that runs through all the signs and symptoms of fawning is self-abandonment. |
| 0:52.9 | Okay. So it was just like my body said, I can't do it anymore. |
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| 1:02.7 | Oh. |
| 1:05.6 | Ain't nobody safe |
| 1:15.6 | Ain't nobody safe in a Bible moment. Oh, in a Bible moment, hell. |
| 1:34.8 | In a Bible moment. Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Preacher Boys podcast. My name is |
| 1:39.0 | Eric Skritsinsky. I'm a former fundamentalist who now sheds light on the darker sides of the church, |
| 1:44.8 | from the pulpits to the pews. |
| 1:46.8 | And today I'm bringing in a very special guest. |
| 1:49.9 | Her name is Dr. Ingrid Clayton. |
| 1:51.5 | She's a clinical psychologist who is here to talk about one of the most under-discussed responses to trauma. |
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