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The Stacking Benjamins Show

Climbing the Wealth Ladder: Conquering Retirement Fears (with Mark Trautman) SB1713

The Stacking Benjamins Show

Joe Saul-Sehy and Josh ‘OG’ Bannerman, CFP

Personal Finance, Financial Planning, Education, Retirement, Investing, Cfp, Business, Money

4.42K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

What if the scariest part of retirement isn’t running out of money—but losing your sense of identity? This week on The Stacking Benjamins Show, we tackle the fears that hold so many people back from financial independence and a joyful, purpose-filled retirement.

Joe Saul-Sehy and Doug are joined by an all-star panel of financial thinkers:

  • Mark Trautman (Mark’s Money Mind)

  • Paula Pant (Afford Anything)

  • Jesse Cramer (Personal Finance for Long-Term Investors)

Together, they unpack the emotional, practical, and strategic side of planning your next chapter—whether you're closing in on retirement or still working toward it.

  • The biggest fears about retirement: from running out of money to running out of meaning.

  • The “one more year” syndrome: why it's so tempting to delay and how to break through.

  • Time freedom vs. financial freedom: how to align your life goals with your money strategy.

  • Tactics to conquer fear: income layering, diversified portfolios, annuities, and rental properties.

  • Psychology matters: why no spreadsheet ever solved a midlife identity crisis.

  • Real stories from the panel: wins, struggles, and lessons from guiding others through retirement transitions.

  • Planning for healthcare and long-term care: because your body didn’t get the early retirement memo.

  • Plus, the usual basement mayhem: trivia, playful host banter, and a few unexpected laughs (we won’t call them “funny”—you know the rule).

  • Retire to something, not just from something. Purpose beats spreadsheets.

  • Understand your income plan. Know where the money will come from, rain or shine.

  • Plan for healthcare now, not later. Medicare, long-term care, and medical surprises deserve your attention.

  • Don’t go it alone. The best plans are ones you understand, but it helps to get advice from trusted sources.

Whether you’re on the cusp of calling it quits or still deep in the grind, this episode will help you prepare—not just financially, but mentally and emotionally—for a retirement you’ll love.

FULL SHOW NOTES: https://stackingbenjamins.com/what-is-holding-you-back-from-reaching-your-goals-1713

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Transcript

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0:00.0

My podcast has a first name.

0:04.9

It's S-T-A-C-K-ing.

0:08.2

My podcast has a second name.

0:10.8

It's B-E-N-J-A.

0:14.0

Hmm.

0:19.0

Live from the basement of the YouTube headquarters, it's the Stacking Benjamin Show.

0:23.6

I'm Joe's Mom's Neighbor, Doug, and all week long long we've given you the tools to climb the wealth ladder.

0:40.7

Today we'll talk about what's holding you back from climbing the ladder with three experts in this very field.

0:47.4

Is it fear?

0:48.7

Procrastination?

0:49.9

The deep rumble of Joe's mom's Harley surrounding you in a cold blanket of fear as though it were the sinister laugh

0:55.4

of some unseen specter of certain failure?

0:59.1

I mean, you know, like just off the top of my head.

1:01.6

We'll tackle smashing these obstacles.

1:04.1

It was just an example, Ma.

1:05.9

These obstacles and more over the next hour.

1:09.5

Plus, that's not all.

1:10.6

We'll pause halfway through this riveting discussion

1:12.8

for our year-long trivia competition.

1:16.0

Can our special guest help OG from running away with this prize

1:19.7

before the end of the summer?

1:21.5

We'll find out.

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