Climbing Out of a Hard Phase with Lisa Woodruff EP 309
Best Laid Plans
Sarah Hart-Unger
4.9 • 854 Ratings
🗓️ 29 June 2026
⏱️ 25 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to best laid plans. This is your host, Sarah Hart Unger, and this is the podcast |
| 0:13.8 | where we talk all things planning and planning adjacent. I have a really fun episode today that I |
| 0:20.4 | recorded with my friend and I'd say partner in the |
| 0:24.1 | planning and organizing space, Lisa Woodruff. I guess I am more in the planning space and she is |
| 0:30.6 | definitely more in the physical organizing space than I am since that is something I still |
| 0:35.1 | personally struggle with a little bit. But we both think a lot about |
| 0:39.2 | planning, and I think we both have some really interesting methods, some elaborate methods, |
| 0:44.5 | and some different ways that we think about our planning styles. I know that every time I listen to |
| 0:50.5 | a Lisa Woodruff organized 365 episode about planning, whether it's how she |
| 0:54.7 | tables non-urgent things to the end of her week or how she thinks ahead of time about planning |
| 0:59.5 | a very packed season. I always learn something new. She just thinks differently about many things, |
| 1:06.4 | I guess, that there's a lot of ideas out there in this space, but sometimes when they're really quirky |
| 1:11.2 | and one-off, you might find that they work for you better than some of the traditional ones. |
| 1:15.9 | So, anyway, I just love her stuff. |
| 1:18.2 | And this conversation is no exception. |
| 1:21.0 | Her book, Escaping Quicksand, came out just six days ago when this ad, so please give it a |
| 1:26.9 | read. |
| 1:27.4 | It's all about kind of like |
| 1:28.8 | her journey out of what she felt like was a deep cavern of suffering and struggling right |
| 1:35.2 | around the time she turned 40. And I know I have lots of listeners in that age bracket, maybe a little |
| 1:39.5 | younger, maybe a little bit older. But her journey has been fascinating to me as I kind of knew a little bit |
| 1:45.0 | about it, even before I reached that age bracket. Now I'm right there too. Well, a little more than 40, |
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