This is Sarah Stewart Holland and this is Beth Silverce.

Thank you for joining us for Pantsuit Politics.

Hello and welcome to another episode of Pantsuit Politics.

Today we are excited to welcome back travel writer extraordinaire Rick Steves, as well as his COO at Rick Steves Europe, Craig Davidson,

to talk about responsible travel and their climate smart program as so many of us kick off what is shaping up to be a real blockbuster travel season.

And then outside of politics, we're going to talk about limitations, so many experience when it comes to travel.

Small kids, no money, physical limitations and how we've handled those at different points in our lives.

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Next up are conversations with Rick Steves and Craig Davidson.

I don't know about you, but my news feed has been filled with headlines about this summer travel season and how many people are going to be traveling.

Same here, I've seen all of the headlines about how the airports are going to be bananas. You need to bring your patients.

You need to keep your schedule flexible. You need to build in some cushion time. Don't expect to get anywhere on time and immediately go to another reservation.

I've seen a lot of information about how the airlines are planning to cope with this, and it seems like the airlines are walking this real balanced right now.

I've tried to retain their current employees and also recruit new ones and keep those current employees working through this entire season.

It's a moment when they have a lot of leverage if they were to strike or otherwise make a stand for better working conditions.

I read all of it and think, okay, everybody, let's just keep it together this summer. We can do this. We can do this.

Well, it is someone who travels and who loves travel. I try not to just think about this through an individual lens.

I try not to just think, okay, I need to make sure I have my backup reservation, right?

I really want to think about this responsibly. I absolutely do carbon offsets for all the miles.

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