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Climate Politics, Football and Math, Ether. May 31, 2019, Part 2

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🗓️ 31 May 2019

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

A green wave is sweeping through Washington, and it’s picking up Republicans who are eager to share their ideas on clean energy and climate change. But even as Republican lawmakers turn to shaping climate policy, the White House is doubling down on climate denial, forming a “climate review panel” to vet and discredit the already peer-reviewed science on climate change. So where will climate science end up? Ira’s joined by marine biologist Ayana Elizabeth Johnson and climate scientist Michael Mann for a round table conversation about climate politics, policy, and science activism. Growing up, John Urschel grew up playing both math puzzles and high school football, and he would follow both of those passions. After playing for the Baltimore Ravens, he is now currently a mathematics Ph.D. candidate at MIT. He joins Ira to discuss seeing the world from a mathematical perspective and how he was able to balance the challenges of math and football. Albert Michelson was a Polish immigrant who grew up in the hard-scrabble atmosphere of the California gold rush. In his physics career, Michelson also measured the speed of light to an unprecedented degree of accuracy, and designed one of the most elegant physics experiments in the 19th century, to detect something that ultimately didn’t even exist: the “luminiferous ether.” Science historian David Kaiser tells the story of how that idea rose and fell in this interview with Ira and Science Friday’s Annie Minoff.

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0:00.0

This is Science Friday. I'm Iroflato. A bit later in the hour, we'll talk to John Urchall, who went from pro footballer to MIT Math PhD student.

0:10.1

We'll talk about his passion for math. But first, a green wave is sweeping through Washington, and it's picking up lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who are eager to share their ideas on clean energy and climate change.

0:24.9

We know the climate's changing and the global industrial activity has played a role in this phenomenon.

0:29.3

So I proposed a new Manhattan project for clean energy, to clean up our air, to raise family incomes, and to deal with climate change.

0:38.7

Our military does not have the luxury of an academic debate about climate change.

0:44.2

They must respond to the reality that we face today, and so should the United States Congress.

0:49.7

Think those are all Democrats? You'd be wrong. All three of them, Republicans. That was Oklahoma

0:55.9

Representative Frank Lucas, followed by Tennessee Senator Lamar Alexander, and finally, Florida

1:02.1

Representative Matt Gates, all Republicans, all talking about climate change. But even as

1:08.8

Republican lawmakers present their ideas and get involved in climate

1:12.7

policy, the White House is doubling down on climate denial, forming a climate review panel,

1:19.8

as they call it, to vet and discredit the already peer-reviewed science on climate change.

1:24.7

The panel's leader is William Happer, a physicist who has said that

1:28.7

carbon dioxide has been unfairly demonized, comparing it to the Holocaust, quote, the demonization

1:35.5

of carbon dioxide is just like the demonization of the poor Jews under Hitler. Some comparison.

1:42.2

Happer declined an invitation to join us today.

1:45.3

But here with me now are Ayanna Elizabeth Johnson, a marine biologist and founder and CEO of the

1:51.1

consulting firm Ocean Collective.

1:53.4

She's also founder of the nonprofit Urban Ocean Lab, a think tank for coastal cities.

1:58.5

Welcome to Science Friday.

1:59.8

Thanks for having me.

2:00.6

Yeah, thank you, Dr. Johnson.

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