Climate Fervorology (ECO-ADVOCACY WITHOUT IT BEING A BUMMER) with AJR’s Adam Met

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Alie Ward

Comedy, Science, Society & Culture

4.9 • 23.8K Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Climate Fervorology (ECO-ADVOCACY WITHOUT IT BEING A BUMMER) with AJR’s Adam Met Cleaner energy! Reasoning with climate deniers! Using fandom to pass policy! And not burning out. Adam Met, of the colossal indie pop band AJR is also a career climate activist, an International Human Rights Law PhD, adjunct professor at Columbia University, and the author of the upcoming book “Amplify: How to Use the Power of Connection to Engage, Take Action, and Build a Better World.” He joins to chat about breaking through the overwhelm of climate causes, what action actually matters, if petitions even work, what happens to our brains at a rock concert, how human rights and climate policy intersect, if you should drive a gas or an electric car, how to solve problems that are vexing you by not working on them, carbon footprint guilt, the similarities between writing an album and writing a book, and how to do something about climate change without bumming everyone out. It’s possible. Visit Dr. Met’s website and follow him on Instagram, Bluesky, and LinkedIn Pre-order his book releasing June 3, 2025, Amplify: How to Use the Power of Connection to Engage, Take Action, and Build a Better World, on Bookshop.org or Amazon A donation went to Planet Reimagined More episode sources and links Smologies (short, classroom-safe) episodes Other episodes you may enjoy: Critical Ecology (SOCIAL SYSTEMS + ENVIRONMENT), Conservation Technology (EARTH SAVING), Meteorology (WEATHER & CLIMATE), Culicidology (MOSQUITOES), Oceanology (OCEANS), Pedagogology (SCIENCE COMMUNICATION) with Bill Nye, Political Sociology (VOTER TURNOUT & SUPPRESSION), Fanthropology (FANDOM), Coffeeology (COFFEE) Sponsors of Ologies Transcripts and bleeped episodes Become a patron of Ologies for as little as a buck a month OlogiesMerch.com has hats, shirts, hoodies, totes! Follow Ologies on Instagram and Bluesky Follow Alie Ward on Instagram and TikTok Editing by Mercedes Maitland of Maitland Audio Productions and Jake Chaffee Managing Director: Susan Hale Scheduling Producer: Noel Dilworth Transcripts by Aveline Malek Website by Kelly R. Dwyer Theme song by Nick Thorburn

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0:00.0	Oh, hey, it's the guy at the library, covertly eating granola out of his hand.
0:05.5	I'm Ellie Ward. This is Ologies. This is a podcast. This is April, which means it's the month that we all like to use the globe emoji and the green heart one and get free canvas tote bags from startups.
0:16.5	And in the back of our minds, we like to twitch at the existential naggings of climate change.
0:22.4	It's Earth Month.
0:23.4	Listen.
0:24.0	Listen.
0:25.2	I get it.
0:26.3	This episode is carefully timed to address what to do about the world and what to do that actually works.
0:33.3	What works?
0:34.5	We asked about it.
0:35.6	We got some answers.
0:37.1	And it's not depressing.
0:39.3	So this guest is the founder of the nonprofit Planet Reimagined, which is dedicated to climate
0:44.7	solutions that have deep impacts.
0:46.8	He got his bachelor's at Columbia, a master's at NYU, and a PhD in international human
0:52.8	rights law from the University of Birmingham, and is now an adjunct professor at Columbia teaching about climate policy and sustainability.
1:01.5	He's also the author of the upcoming book Amplify, how to use the power of connection to engage, take action, and build a better world.
1:10.0	Now for cool points, I met this guest backstage at a
1:13.7	sold out rock concert. He did not know the band. He was the band. He was playing a rock concert. Yeah,
1:20.2	he's a scholar. He's a climate activist, a time 100 climate list honoree, casually also a very famous rock star in a band called AJR.
1:30.8	So my brother-in-law, Chris Berry, plays drums for them.
1:33.7	Hello, Chris.
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