Hi everyone Thomas Small here. I'm coming to you from deep undercover. Literally, I'm sitting on my bed with the covers pulled over my head, trying my best to recreate the conditions of a recording studio.

You see the episode you're about to hear was recorded before lockdown, but before we kick

it off, Aaman and I have a favor to ask.

As we come to the end of season two, we're doing a survey to find out what you, dear listeners,

enjoy about the show, what you want more of, and where we can improve.

The survey will only take about five to ten minutes to complete, and let's face it, you're at

home twiddling your thumbs, waiting for this global pandemic to end so why not just

click on the link in the show notes below or go to bit dot y slash conflicted

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And as a thank you, anyone who completes the survey will be in with a chance of winning a copy of Amman's book, Nine Lives, My Time

as My Six's Top Spy Inside Al Qaeda.

Now on with the show.

Welcome to the last episode of this season of Conflicted. I am Thomas Small and of course Aaman Dean is here with me.

Hi Aaman.

Hi, Thomas. How are you doing today? Don't say you're

still alive. People are getting sick of that. I noticed that there's more gray

hair in your beard. Is that is that the toll of being a jihadist or the toll of being a father of two young children?

I can tell you, I've been through many wars and I can tell you nothing prepares you to

raising children.

Rising children is worse than actually going to war. All right. children. potentially the demise of America's New World Order. In the last episode we turned our

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