What does it take to truly disrupt an industry? How do you overcome the fear of failure?

When is it time to take a risk? I am Bob Pittman, Chairman and CEO of I Heart Media, and these

are the kind of questions we explore on my podcast, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers

of Market. This season, I sit down with some of the most unique thinkers to swap lessons

and stories on making our work bigger and better. We'll hear from business leaders like

Christian Joel, Global CEO of Group M. It's really important to hear your people realize

it's okay to fail, and it comes out of Silicon Valley. They'll fast, get smarter quick.

Susie Deering, CMO for Motor Company. We are at that moment when it all changes, and I

think that a big part of the why we're at that moment is because of the F-150 Lightning.

It changed everything. Steve Cooper, CEO of Warner Music Group. Technology is like an

avalanche. You either get out in front of it, or it's just going to bury you.

Listen to Math and Magic on our very own free I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever

you get your podcast.

Hey there, I'm David Novak. I ran Taco Bell KFC and Pizza, and like you, I'm always learning

so that I can be the best leader I can be. That's why I started Halleaders League. The

first leader-deleter podcast was CEOs from Adobe, Pepsi, and the Home Depot, so you can learn

how they get it done. In fact, I just did an episode with Gail Troberman, the president

and CMO of I Heart. Listen to our entire conversation on Halleaders League with David Novak, available

on the I Heart Radio app, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

This is Tesla Figaro. host the straight shot No Chaser on the Blacky Fake podcast and

that work on our heart radio. All my podcasts will cover a number of topics, politics, black

lifestyle, racial justice, and food for the soul to inspire you. My guests will include

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