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Brian Kilmeade Show

Cliff May: China's promise to replace the U.S. as the preeminent power

Brian Kilmeade Show

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4.12K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2026

⏱️ 16 minutes

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0:00.0

So many critical things going on around the globe.

0:02.0

I mean, you could always dig stuff out and say this is critical,

0:04.7

but you don't have to read foreign policy magazine to see it.

0:07.7

I mean, just walk by the headlines anywhere.

0:10.3

See what happened in Taiwan with we pledge $11 billion in China basically has war exercises over that island

0:18.5

and pledges to take it in 27.

0:23.7

Then in Venezuela, Maduro does what I think is car karaoke, a carpool karaoke in a car, does an interview where he says America could have

0:30.4

what they want it. They want oil. If they want to stop the drug problem, I want to work with you.

0:33.9

You want political prisoners out. You can do it. And then we see Russia and Ukraine.

0:38.7

We see a delegate from the Russian side and the Ukrainians president come in, as well as the

0:43.7

prime minister of Israel over Marilago. Please don't tell me that this president is losing steam.

0:51.0

Not going to work. Let's bring in Cliff Bay, founder and president of the Foundation for

0:55.2

Defensive Democracies. Cliff, thanks so much for joining us. First off, when it comes to Iran,

0:59.5

six straight days of protest. We've seen this movie before. I give these people so much credit

1:04.7

because they don't have guns, they don't have weapons, but they have numbers now. Is this

1:10.8

going to be different this time than the last

1:12.9

times when the Iranian regime just cracks down? All those are good points, Brian. Look, when we saw

1:21.1

this in 1979, and I was there as a young reporter in 1979, the Shah was not going to kill

1:26.9

like 10,000 of this people in order to stay in power. Now, the present regime in 1979, the Shah was not going to kill like 10,000 of his people in order to stay in

1:29.2

power. Now, the present regime in Iran, will they kill 10,000 people to stay in power?

1:34.7

I think that's perfectly conceivable that they might. The numbers of people in the streets

1:39.0

are huge and it's mounting. At some point, if this is to succeed, I think what you have to have are some of those who have the guns, the military, the IRGC, which is separate from the military, the besiege, kind of like brownshirts. They have to do two things, which they've started to do the first. One is say, we're not going to fire on our brothers. We're not going to do it. Two, they have to say, we're going to support our brothers. In the words, they have to switch sides and stand with people. If they don't, look, usually those with the guns are the ones who end up in power. Tell me if this is different. They're running out of water. When it comes to inflation, $1.4 million. So inflation is through the roof. I mean,

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