Clients Harmed By Therapy
Psychology In Seattle Podcast
Kirk Honda
4.5 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 4 February 2026
⏱️ 87 minutes
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This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/KIRK to get 10% off your first month.
00:00 Introducing Jennifer Kramer and Amy Nordhues
09:43 Amy's story
18:23 Jennifer's story
48:49 What will the docuseries consist of?
56:08 Why might therapists blame the client?
1:22:18 Where can you watch the documentary?
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, Deserving listeners. Today we have two special guests with us today to talk about how, at times, |
| 0:06.9 | therapy can actually harm people. This is something that isn't talked about enough, |
| 0:13.5 | especially among clinicians. I think because clinicians can be insecure about these sorts of things. |
| 0:20.0 | Years and years ago, i don't remember exactly |
| 0:23.0 | how this started but i was an admin on a facebook group called uh clients harmed by therapy i think it |
| 0:31.5 | was i think it's called yes and i ran it for a while and would get people joining, this is like, I don't know, 15 years ago or something. |
| 0:42.6 | And people would join it saying, this is the only place on the internet that I can find that |
| 0:48.1 | talks about this. |
| 0:49.1 | And to have it led by an actual therapist is, you know, even more unique, so to speak. And I thought, |
| 0:58.5 | that's strange. Because in my world of academia, harm is something that we talk about all the time. |
| 1:05.3 | It's researched. It's understood. It's not something to be afraid of. You know, it's like any other helping profession if you're a |
| 1:13.7 | medical professional sometimes you make the wrong call or the medication doesn't agree with the |
| 1:20.8 | clients you know they're randomly allergic to something or it just doesn't work out somehow the |
| 1:27.0 | treatment protocol and you have to adjust. That's how |
| 1:29.5 | clinical work operates as a constant process of learning and of growing and of developing and |
| 1:39.3 | strengthening our treatment protocols and everything. And so the group grew and grew and grew over time. |
| 1:47.3 | Eventually, one of our guests, Amy Nordhuez, actually became one of the admins on the group. |
| 1:53.4 | Amy, welcome to the show. |
| 1:56.5 | Just a quick note on this, how big did the group eventually become? |
| 2:00.6 | I think I was looking at it today, |
| 2:02.6 | actually, and there's over 700 members. Yeah, I remember when it was just like 12 or something. But |
| 2:08.1 | even with 12, it was a big deal because it's not just a group that you join like, oh, that's interesting. |
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